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 | | 25 Jun 2009 04:38 PM |
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Posted By Da Moose on 25 Jun 2009 03:57 PM
Sorry I'm not convinced, the fact is the human brain is not advanced enough to make all of this up. Sure, we may interpret information in a way that is different to reality (for example red might be blue etc), however we are still interpreting information recieved by us, we are not creating that informaion
Posted By B# on 24 Jun 2009 01:43 PM
Posted By Da Moose on 24 Jun 2009 12:39 PM
Ok, this was interesting, but heres the thing, its pretty much all based on an aspect of physics that we do not understand yet, and to say "we can not explain this, therefor it is not real" is a very big leap, and in order for it to work needs to have a lot of people telling it to us using big words and with 'epic' music in the background.
THERE IS NO EXPLANATION NEEDED FOR YOU TO LOOK AT YOUR SKIN AND SAY... "ITS WHITE" OR "BLACK". You just perceive it to be so. You also just perceive it to be solid... but, your skin/body is not solid. In fact NOTHING IS SOLID. everything has a vibration and the same atoms that make up you or a concrete wall are alike. AND... THEY ARE ALL MOVING AT DIFFERENT RATES OF SPEED OR FREQUENCIES!
The ancients understood that WE CONTROL OUR REALITY! YOUR reality is made up of your dreams, desires, fears, and what you are accepting from the thoughts and ideas of others; that you perceive as REAL.
OK... Not my job to convince you of anything. But think about this.... when people are under the influence... do they not see things, feel things, hear things that are not there to someone not under the influence? again, this is not my NEW INFORMATION.... just QUANTUM PHYSICS DISCOVERY. You don't have to believe. R.I.P. MJ | | | B# AND B RED E | |
| mr_whitepholk
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| | 26 Jun 2009 12:47 AM |
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| im with da moose on this one, i think humans are not at the level of brain power, that they must have once used to be... again im very skeptical but i just dont think the brains computing power is great enough to comprehend this theory. i do believe in it, just no solid proof of how to use it
but the under the influence is true... some one not using said instrument into their own brain will be the only one seeing those things, not the ones around and, for them it is reality, but also the drug or whathave you, is the deciding factor that is propelling their brain in order to see those things... so it does show that seeing things are able to happen, but not without a instrument to guide it.... plus they arent changing reality , but things are invading theirs.....
hope i made a compelling argument.... again i do believe in it, just that humans arent able to process it | | ** I Am  The Remix Master** | |
| Ev-G
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| | 26 Jun 2009 05:11 AM |
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| B#
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| | 26 Jun 2009 09:49 AM |
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Posted By mr_whitepholk on 26 Jun 2009 12:47 AM
im with da moose on this one, i think humans are not at the level of brain power, that they must have once used to be... again im very skeptical but i just dont think the brains computing power is great enough to comprehend this theory. i do believe in it, just no solid proof of how to use it
but the under the influence is true... some one not using said instrument into their own brain will be the only one seeing those things, not the ones around and, for them it is reality, but also the drug or whathave you, is the deciding factor that is propelling their brain in order to see those things... so it does show that seeing things are able to happen, but not without a instrument to guide it.... plus they arent changing reality , but things are invading theirs.....
hope i made a compelling argument.... again i do believe in it, just that humans arent able to process it
yes however it is the human mind that discovered this.. it is the human mind that has known about this through the ancient world... and as you know the human mind created a movie based on these principles called THE MATRIX. Maybe it is just those who are having a hard time comprehending that are NOT suited to live in a reality where whatever you want... you have. Not yet anyway, but one day.. YOU WILL. | | | B# AND B RED E | |
| YoungVito
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| | 27 Jun 2009 12:23 AM |
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| man i was trippin bean last night thinking the exact same, like what if we dont exist?
i had like a prawn cracker and crumbled it to dust and kinda thought, we so easily could be the same
just turn to dust and ultimately into nothing...or maybe we are nothin
i dont know man, i just dig the whole idea that nothing is real
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| B#
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| | 27 Jun 2009 11:47 AM |
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Posted By YoungVito on 27 Jun 2009 12:23 AM
man i was trippin bean last night thinking the exact same, like what if we dont exist?
i had like a prawn cracker and crumbled it to dust and kinda thought, we so easily could be the same
just turn to dust and ultimately into nothing...or maybe we are nothin
i dont know man, i just dig the whole idea that nothing is real
just blows my funking mind
what's really gonna blow your mind is.... IF everything we know is based on what we perceive as reality... then what is death? Could death simply be us TUNING OUT those who are still actually living? | | | B# AND B RED E | |
| Skraal
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| | 28 Jun 2009 04:37 PM |
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| I here this alot, is this all real? Personally to tell someone that anything is possible is deff not the smartest thing to do. Also like you said to Whitepholk keep trying and you will fly, well some people may say ok let me go try ,causing them to go jump off a building and die.... It only made sense that gravity was made for a reason, as God made us with wisdom to understand that by jumping off this building we will fall to our death. I believe in the bible and I can tell that you read it B# but seems youve been clouded by the regular society teachings. This cloud is from the devil, yes it may sound kinda corny to some, but if you read the bible much of what happens today is shown in the bible. Also the verse about Moving a mountain is not stating that you can walk up to a mountain and say, "Hey mountain move now." What it refers to is the struggle between you and the world or in other words, your struggles with life and how you can overcome them with your belief in God. You took the verse and did what many do, mistankinly took it out of context. Dont worry first time I read it i did the same. Now some of the stuff you said has truth behind it, be postive about things you say such as I tell myself I will become a great keyboard player. Telling your self that you will accomplish the task set ahead.
But again you must stay within certain boundaries, the boundaries I speak off are those that God set in the bible. As for all the matrix stuff it was just a movie to entertain. And if your really trying to compare life to that you are very mislead, your talking about were programed to believe things well, obviously this movie programmed you with lies.
Becareful what you listen to, this stuff clouds you with false teachings, I can tell you this if your really looking for your life.. give it to God.. "For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it." Matthew 17:7 | | | |
| B#
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| | 28 Jun 2009 06:14 PM |
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Posted By Arisen Sound on 28 Jun 2009 04:37 PM
I here this alot, is this all real? Personally to tell someone that anything is possible is deff not the smartest thing to do. Also like you said to Whitepholk keep trying and you will fly, well some people may say ok let me go try ,causing them to go jump off a building and die.... It only made sense that gravity was made for a reason, as God made us with wisdom to understand that by jumping off this building we will fall to our death. I believe in the bible and I can tell that you read it B# but seems youve been clouded by the regular society teachings. This cloud is from the devil, yes it may sound kinda corny to some, but if you read the bible much of what happens today is shown in the bible. Also the verse about Moving a mountain is not stating that you can walk up to a mountain and say, "Hey mountain move now." What it refers to is the struggle between you and the world or in other words, your struggles with life and how you can overcome them with your belief in God. You took the verse and did what many do, mistankinly took it out of context. Dont worry first time I read it i did the same. Now some of the stuff you said has truth behind it, be postive about things you say such as I tell myself I will become a great keyboard player. Telling your self that you will accomplish the task set ahead.
But again you must stay within certain boundaries, the boundaries I speak off are those that God set in the bible. As for all the matrix stuff it was just a movie to entertain. And if your really trying to compare life to that you are very mislead, your talking about were programed to believe things well, obviously this movie programmed you with lies.
Becareful what you listen to, this stuff clouds you with false teachings, I can tell you this if your really looking for your life.. give it to God.. "For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it." Matthew 17:7 LOL... You are trying to tell me what I think and know to be true is FALSE because of your own twisted interpretation? Let me explain something about BIBLICAL FACTS. 1st, I have a GNOSTIC view of interpretation. I KNOW and want the KNOWLEDGE of knowing as opposed to the Pisces way of delusional thinking. You make reference to gravity as GOD PUT IT HERE FOR A PURPOSE.. Ok... So he made water for a purpose too and he made it so we swim in, over, thru it.. yet YESHUA walked on it. What does that say about your theory? It says that YOU MERELY (like 98% of the population) interpret YOUR UNDERSTANDING of thought as relates to you today. As far as the DEVIL is concerned... that too is YOUR interpretation of someone else's OPINION. Because the scriptures clearly state that GOD creates both GOOD AND EVIL.. or have you not read Isaiah?? Isaiah 45:7 - I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. The Hebrew knew nothing of this DEVIL you speak in fact they word DEVIL means "slanderer" and Satan means "opposer". But like everything else PEOPLE personify stuff they don't understand. So please, keep your back woods understanding to yourself. Stop following my postings like you are the moral authority. We obviously don't have the same outlook on REALITY. My creator said that I was made in HIS image unlike any other creature on earth which means I HAVE THE ABILITY TO CREATE JUST AS HE DOES! Quantum Physics also says I have the power to create that which I desire... who are you to tell me or anyone else that its not true? If you choose to be stifled in knowledge and ability then by all means do so/be so. Don't try to push your "boogie man" understanding off on the enlightened... p.s. BOUNDARIES are for the enslaved, the jailed, the controlled, the weak and oppressed. Yeshua said the TRUTH shall make you free. How is freedom and BOUNDARIES working in the same realm??? They are not! | | | B# AND B RED E | |
| Number oNe
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| | 28 Jun 2009 09:56 PM |
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| You really need to read and understand what he is saying, When he refers to the Light and darkness hes not refering to EVIL... you are taking one verse and trying to justify that God does evil, not sure if you read the verses before he clearly explains "why" Isaiah 45: 5-6 "I am the Lord, and there is no other;" (Not meaning there is no devil meaning, there is no other god you should worship, example Buddist worshiping the Buddah..) continued "There is no God Besides me, I will gird you, though you have not known me" Verse 6 clearly states what he follows up with in verse 7 "That they may know from the *Sun to its Setting* that there is none besides Me. I am the Lord there is none besides me". The darkness he reffers to in 7 is not based on Evil, rather you should worship god no matter the time of day. An example would be a person believing in 2 gods worshiping God in the Day and Buddah at night.. "I form the Light and create the darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I the Lord, do all these things". It clearly shows he is not stating Darkness as evil, also this is the old testament the word evil is from hebrew. Meaning god does not create moral evil. Maybe this will shed light on it better. http://www.gotquestions.org/Isaiah-45-7.htmlhttp://www.carm.org/bible-difficult...reate-evilGenesis 1: 16 "Then God made two great Lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night (Darkness)". | | | |
| Number oNe
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| | 28 Jun 2009 10:31 PM |
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| Yes you were created in his image, but please tell me or show me in the bible where it promises you the ability to do "All things", yes he does promises those who believe will have spirtual healing, speak in tongues, cast out demons etc. but you cannot just justifly answers on one verse.
I also am not slandering at what you are saying, we are just talking yet you seem very offensive. Lets keep this on the chill side and just work it out, I promise you throw any thing at me I will not be offended will merely show you how wrong your thoughts really are, and all I will use is the bible I Will Not use my own oppinion
You mix Quantum Physics with the Bible? where science is clearly on the side of there not being a god? and that we are all created from a cell organism. Please explain more fully because it confuses me..
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| mr_whitepholk
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| | 29 Jun 2009 01:32 AM |
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| i dont believe in the bible, as is today, the roman catholic church has had too much "change" put into the current bible , so that it would suit their own personal beliefs of how the world should be... and it is also known that jesus was a jew and not christian and never preached as achristian, and that alot of his " miracles" are misinterpretations of the language of the time....
ie: turning water into wine, actually meant, to be raised up in the "group" if you will, of the jeruselum church , and when he raised the dead, he was actually bringing someone into the "light" if you will, and they followed him the jeruselum way of thinking, thus, being alive you are accepted by them, and being dead, you do not follow their religion...
just some things i have read about religion, and this is a touchy for some people because they believe so much in their own religion that it is the pillar of their own life, and daily routines, that they get offended by someone elses opinions of religion, especially if its not of their ouwn beliefs. arisen has some good points, and B# you arent taking it too well, i didnt think he was attacking you when i read his post, but you acted out as if he was... just saying...
i believe alot of the past was hidden for a reason, that why the romans made jesus a "white" man, when he obviously came from a arabic nation, and the roman catholic church has diluted the bible so much its hard to know what was actually truth before they had the "power" to write history as we know it... this goes along with those in power control the past, its a sad thing. | | | ** I Am The Remix Master** | |
| ronboe
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| | 29 Jun 2009 02:48 AM |
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| This just seems like a lot of new age beliefs to me, that is why the word theory was brought up because it is just that a theory. like that phrase that was going around about if a tree falls in the woods, and now one is around does it still make a noise, well of course it does. There talking a lot about atoms here but what about sub atomic particles, and anti matter. computer designers used to worry about sub atomic particles penetrating the computer tower, and ruining it. if you did not know a language, or have a word for everything like we do today you would be a lot better at reading peoples body language, and gyrations. | | | World Wide Warbeats got talent. | |
| B#
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| | 01 Jul 2009 05:01 PM |
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| I'm trying to take in all that you are saying however we seem to be delving off on tangents and not focusing on settling one issue over another. i will say this to summerize everything. When YHWH gave his name to Moses he made it pain and clear: "I AM THAT I AM"... MEANING HE CAN BE ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING AT ANYTIME HE DESIRES TO ACCOMPLISH HIS GOAL. (not yelling sorry) It would be silly for YHWH to say "I create both good and evil" (or cause calamity) if he was NOT actually doing it. The personification of "Satan" or "the devil" is nothing more than what mankind has been doing since the beginning of time... personifying circumstances, cycles, times, eras, events etc. If YHWH is telling you that there is NOT OTHER... why are you creating ANOTHER? I suggest that you do some actual study of origin... because as it is written the Hebrews were conquered and enslaved by more than one civilization a number of times... as with the African Slave there is a synthesizing of culture within generations. it's inevitable. Many of the theological belief and traits were "merged" with Judaism and this is a known fact. There is The Babylonian Talmud, There is Kabala, There is also the GREEK Hellenism theories such as Pergatory, The devil, and living in HEAVEN. Recall Yeshua told the Pharisee that they observed commandments of men NOT of God because of their "washing of the hands commandment" which went back generations and is a part of the Talmud. What I am trying to tell you is your UNDERSTANDING of and your INTERPRETATION of biblical history, stories, medaphors, parables, illustrations is an EVOLVED consciousness. And not pure at that. For instance: Lucifer which Christianity has so named "satan the devil" in Isaiah 14 IS NOT naming Satan the devil... but the KING of Babylon... Who had lofty ideas of being as God, and High in position, and YHWH brought him down to eating GRASS IN THE FIELD LIKE A BEAST. All the other chapters are dedicated to like KINGS (if you would just read them). The word Lucifer is LATIN and means "Light Barrer" and was the name given to Venus as the brightest star or LIGHT in the sky at times. Yet Christianity has given that name to The "opposer" and the "slanderer" and PERSONIFIED him as a personal entitiy when anyone can be Satan (opposer) or a Devil (slanderer)... Besides.. Isaiah was written in Hebrew... The VULGATE (with is the Latin version of the Hebrew scritures) did not come until many centuries later. Question: How can a LATIN word that was never used in the septuigant find it's place in the original manuscrips? It cannot... meaning the term LUCIFER was added in the VULGATE of Latin translation. And today it is TOTALLY misunderstood. Imagine what other "knowledge" is twisted and obscure? One more thing.... Your bible which was Cannonized in 325 ad by the command of Constantine has been altered and re-porportioned over the many centuries. There are the books that have been left out (The Apacrypha) and there are KNOWN FORGERIES by fathers of the church before the masses where ever given access to the scriptures. Just think about this... in the bible YHWH makes reference to numbers as having Value or signifigance. knowing that the number seven means perfection, 12 means spiritual completeness, and the number 6 means IMPERFECTION and SIN... if the number 666 means imperfection and sin to the extreme extent what do you think 66 represents? once you discover that answer... know that there are 66 books in your bible today. Peace and Blessings rate this for me please.... -=Rate My Beat=- | | | B# AND B RED E | |
| mr_whitepholk
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| | 02 Jul 2009 03:18 AM |
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| ^ who was that directed towards??? i stated some of what you did already... | | | ** I Am The Remix Master** | |
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Posted By mr_whitepholk on 02 Jul 2009 03:18 AM
^ who was that directed towards??? i stated some of what you did already...
THE OTHER DUDE! LOL | | | B# AND B RED E | |
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