Fobuo Fobuo
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 | | 26 Sep 2009 06:51 AM |
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So I was just browsing some presets on Spectrasonics Trilogy, and I landed on a very questionable set of sounds. If you highlight Synth Bass then Patches, you'll encounter a Hiphop and funk directory. At first I was like "Cool, I'm making a Hiphop beat. Here are some Hiphop Bass sounds. Lets go".
But after reading some of names for the sounds under this directory, my Bullish Detector immediately went off. What are these names, you ask?
Booty Funk-A-Liscous Doggy Style Freaky Luv Homie Junowwwww Nobody Ows like you Ol Skool Square Juice OSCar Ghetto Blaster Rude Diner Guest Sumphin Nu 4 Hiphop
Everything above was spelled as it appears on the VSTi. I consider myself very open minded and quite tolerant, so when my Bullish Detector goes off...Something isn't right.
What are your thoughts on this; am I overreacting or is there something legitimately wrong with the VSTi?
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Tankster
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 | | 26 Sep 2009 07:02 AM |
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| LMAO! are you serious? man i dont know that vst, but that preset names? haha my thoughts? idk. weird names for sure. There must be something wrong with the makers. | | 
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JB Production a.k.a. johnriba
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 | | 26 Sep 2009 07:10 AM |
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Tankster
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 | | 26 Sep 2009 07:15 AM |
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TooIntegrated Ya Girlfriend's Dream (moderator)
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Fobuo Fobuo
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 | | 26 Sep 2009 07:53 AM |
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Posted By TooIntegrated on 26 Sep 2009 07:33 AM
Dude seriously... How can you let yourself be thrown off over something like this.. What does it matter..
So yes... You *are* overreacting..
Maybe I am reading too much into it but...like I said in my post- Something is always off when my BS detector springs into action... Always. | |  | |
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Sabotage The Pimp Hand (moderator)
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 | | 26 Sep 2009 08:33 AM |
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| Nothing is really off, but perhaps the marketing decission. I'm quessing that nobody working on the VSTi really was "real hiphop" head so when the time came to name the presets, who ever did decided to do so by using puns.
If you actually take a closer look pretty much all the names are plays on song, gear or artist names.
The names might not be up to bar, but that is often the case when someone is selling something they are not actually apart of. Happens for all genres and in all walks of life. | | | |
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SP
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 | | 26 Sep 2009 10:06 AM |
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| LOL at the ''rude diner guest'' thats so hip hop right thurrrr xDDD
really tho, i dont see whats wrong with that.. their just trying to name it after stuff that fits the genre a little bit.. simple minded stuff. who cares?
what you should beware of is the names of late 70's music, its straight evil brainwashing stuff.. | | | **Hope for the best, Prepare for the worst.** | |
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Fobuo Fobuo
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 | | 26 Sep 2009 11:43 AM |
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| @Sabotage you have a point. But why wouldn't they just hire someone to make sure that none of the names are insensitive nor stereotypical? Surely they have enough resources to do so. Just as a side note the VSTi has a directory named "Euro", and right now I'm not seeing anything in there that's as brow-raising as the stuff under the Hiphop directory.
@SPE it might be simple minded, but there are long-term implications of this kind of ignorance. What if their next VSTi was targeted towards Hiphop production and said "Powered by Kool-Aid", would they not be able to get away with it seeing as no one raised a flag when they did something of a similar nature on their last VSTi? | |  | |
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Sabotage The Pimp Hand (moderator)
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 | | 26 Sep 2009 12:53 PM |
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| The gain of such a feat, would not justify the cost of it. I'm betting on you are the first one to complain. Presets are only there to showcase the possibilities of the instrument, they always have stupid/silly names. Trilogy is not solely aimed for a hip hop audience. Your line of thinking would also kill Rob's new Sub Boom Bass vsti... There is no hidden meaning behind it all, the illuminati is not out to get you  | | | |
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SP
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 | | 26 Sep 2009 01:40 PM |
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| Well i know that simple minded 17 year old suburb hip hop kids would not click on a preset named ''Polka Synth''
their just trying to catch your attention, and this thread means it worked | | | **Hope for the best, Prepare for the worst.** | |
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Fobuo Fobuo
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 | | 26 Sep 2009 02:45 PM |
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Posted By Sabotage on 26 Sep 2009 12:53 PM
The gain of such a feat, would not justify the cost of it. I'm betting on you are the first one to complain.
Presets are only there to showcase the possibilities of the instrument, they always have stupid/silly names.
Trilogy is not solely aimed for a hip hop audience. Your line of thinking would also kill Rob's new Sub Boom Bass vsti... There is no hidden meaning behind it all, the illuminati is not out to get you  I am most likely the first one to notice and point out the questionable names given to the presets(Trilogy is quite an old VSTi so this comes as a surprise). But I don't find anything silly in racial stereotypes, perhaps that's the exact reason why I noticed the VSTi contained insensitive names for the Hiphop sounds. Of course, Trilogy is not aimed solely for Hiphop production...and that's why they probably thought they could get away with it. Lastly(this might shock you)but as for hidden meanings behind images/names/videos/music/etc, they do exist;  | |  | |
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Fobuo Fobuo
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 | | 26 Sep 2009 02:53 PM |
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Posted By SPE on 26 Sep 2009 01:42 PM
Well i know that simple minded 17 year old suburb hip hop kids would not click on a preset named ''Polka Synth''
their just trying to catch your attention, and this thread means it worked
True, but if their only means of catching the attention of a hiphop kid is through tasteless and racially disturbing preset names, then I think they shouldn't even bother trying to grab the attention of that demographic. | |  | |
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GP Studio
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 | | 27 Sep 2009 03:47 AM |
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| imo there is no debate here, just another person crying fowl and keeping the race issue alive, let it go for real and quit being so sensitive, there's a lot of real hate in the world and this is not it.
Im so sick of all this politically correct crap that does nothing but cause arguments, its like some people are just looking for something to complain about. Now my BS detector is going off! | |  | |
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GP Studio
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 | | 27 Sep 2009 04:29 AM |
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| One thing some people just don't understand is to a 5 year old Kool-Aide is a drink and a Monkey is cute. So who keeps telling them it means anything else but that? By the time they are 8 someone changes the rules and now the word means something else? Whats up with that? grrrrrr why do I get involved in stuff like this | |  | |
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SP
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 | | 27 Sep 2009 06:57 AM |
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| kool-aid is not a drink? :/ | | | **Hope for the best, Prepare for the worst.** | |
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Fobuo Fobuo
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 | | 27 Sep 2009 09:47 AM |
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Posted By GP Studio on 27 Sep 2009 03:47 AM
imo there is no debate here, just another person crying fowl and keeping the race issue alive, let it go for real and quit being so sensitive, there's a lot of real hate in the world and this is not it.
Im so sick of all this politically correct crap that does nothing but cause arguments, its like some people are just looking for something to complain about. Now my BS detector is going off!
Interesting. What is your definition of "real" hate? | |  | |
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GP Studio
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 | | 27 Sep 2009 11:04 AM |
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| Real Hate? When a father beats his kid and calls it love. When a dude beats his girl and calls it love. When a church or organization goes around killing people in the name of purity and love. Real hate is an action not a word. All these things are things to hate and condemn by action and deed, but words are just words once you become an adult that is. Words can hurt kids though. There was a saying I used to hear as a kid, "sticks and stone may break my bones but words will never hurt me". Just let that stuff roll of your back, its people that pin new meanings to those words then talk about them all the time that are the ones keeping the "hate" in those words alive. Thats all im saying  | |  | |
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