lucas572
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 | | 21 Aug 2009 05:00 PM |
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| Hey guys, So i purchased a VIP soundclick a couple of days ago. And i wrote out my licence agreement thingy, but wanted to know if i missed anything out, or if there was anything you guys might add/take away from it  its basically all in that box titled 'what do you get for your money' http://www.soundclick.com/lukeseagerthanks guys! oh yea, drop a link to your SC and i'll add you as a friend and fan | | De Soundclick
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Doctor J
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| | 21 Aug 2009 06:18 PM |
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| your site looks very professional, i like it.... here's some suggestions for you:
- it appears as if you are only "leasing" your beats since you only allow for a certain amount of copies to be sold. personally, i like giving the customers an option to lease the beat or also buy it exclusively, but that's just me. maybe at the bottom of it you could write "contact me @ ... for exclusive rights purchases" or something like that... but if you don't want to sell the exclusive rights thats understandable
- $70 is a bit expensive for leasing rights. there's a lot of competition out there, especially on soundclick... people can lease beats from top notch producers like boon doc etc. for less than what you are offering, so i think it would be a wise move to lower the price.
- that link in your sig looks like a link, but you can't click it... i would change that to a real link so you get more hits on your page, sometimes people are too lazy to copy/paste
- after 2,500 you wrote (two thousand five hundred)..... people are dumb, but not THAT dumb, haha delete that... you also wrote "none commercial use" instead of non
other than that, your site looks pretty good man. i like the buy 2 get 1 free deal, and the free mixing of vocals is a really good offer as well. keep up the good work.
ps- i became your fan... link to my soundclick is in my sig | | myspace.com/doctorj88 | |
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Ev-G
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| | 22 Aug 2009 02:05 AM |
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| Yeah the page looks nice but I also think that the price is high | | | http://www.Ev-GBeats.com | |
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lucas572
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| | 22 Aug 2009 07:31 AM |
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| thatnks guys Yea i know my prices are a lil steep atm aha, but i've tried the cheap and cheerful option for the past like 6 months and i've hardly sold. So i talked to a few people, and decided to go vip, make a page that looks professional and bump the prices up. Then maybe people will see the page and think, hey...this guys taken his time over this, he must be serious, so then i'll hopefully get some serious people who believe in themselves enough to spend that little bit more on their craft, you feel me? of course if i get a fair few sales and hits the prices will come down because the demand will be higher (which is why i believe boon docs prices are as low as they are...cause he got like half a millionm hits lol, he can have his proces that low cause he prolly sells like mad XD but, his summer sale on SC beats are still $50 Thanks also dr j, i didn't notice my non-commercial typo aha. imma add you both now too | | De Soundclick
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J Vibe
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| | 22 Aug 2009 09:59 AM |
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| If people buy those beats and distribute 2500 copies of uncleared samples i'm assuming you could get sued too? Am I wrong? | | Check me out on MYSPACE
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lucas572
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| | 22 Aug 2009 12:02 PM |
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| your absoluetly correct my man | | De Soundclick
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Doctor J
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| | 22 Aug 2009 02:45 PM |
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| I just added a disclaimer to my soundclick page that says something about the artist being responsible for clearing samples... im not sure if that would hold up in court, probably not lol.... but i like having it just in case. ps - luke you didn't become my fan  | | | myspace.com/doctorj88 | |
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J Vibe
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| | 22 Aug 2009 02:48 PM |
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| I took a law class this past semmester and a lot of my questions in class had to do with this ish.
My professor finnally was just like...if your sampling a few seconds from a record and distributing to your friends, courts don't ever give a ish.
But I guess the determining factor that they look for is if there is substantial money made with the sample.
I like that disclaimer idea though, but I think it would only really work if you gave the beat away for free and collected bills after the sample was cleared by the artist.
I don't get how Girl talk and artists like him don't get sued until they are blind. He says that it would be impossible to clear all the samples on his CDs...so where's the catch?
But back onto lucas's site. I think it looks really dope. Its definately professional, maybe using different pictures for every beat might draw more people in to specific hot beats. (But not necesarily pictures of naked chicks like I see on so many song pictures..)
Looks way better than my sound click  | | Check me out on MYSPACE
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lucas572
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| | 22 Aug 2009 04:35 PM |
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| sorry dr j, there you go, your officially been fanned aha  Yea, i don't think that disclaimer would hold up. Maybe if you wrote up a propper contract which stated that its the artists job to clear any samples used, and you get them to sign it and send you a copy...you might have a chance. But at the end of the day, if your selling a beat with a sample, your makin money off copyritten material so in the end you too can get sued lol. But like L-in-B' said unless your makin some real nice money, and gettin some serious plays you prolly wont have any trouble thanks also for the advice about the pics, i'll step those up ps: whoop! one of my beats is 13th in its sub-genre! | | De Soundclick
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Ev-G
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| | 23 Aug 2009 05:51 AM |
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| They won't sue you because you made 20$ from a sampled beat don't worry | | | http://www.Ev-GBeats.com | |
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lucas572
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| | 23 Aug 2009 07:12 AM |
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| i was thinkin the other day though, you know when big people like jay, kanye and just blaze etc make a tack, they have to shell out loads for the sample, but if you were a rapper/producer, signed to say Motown...would you have to give royalties an ish to them if you only sample records owned by Motown? lol | | De Soundclick
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J Vibe
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| | 23 Aug 2009 12:26 PM |
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| Prob in that case you would just be considered a "Remix" artist which prob pays much less haha | | Check me out on MYSPACE
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AK beatz
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| | 23 Aug 2009 01:00 PM |
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Posted By Doctor J on 22 Aug 2009 02:45 PM
I just added a disclaimer to my soundclick page that says something about the artist being responsible for clearing samples... im not sure if that would hold up in court, probably not lol.... but i like having it just in case.
ps - luke you didn't become my fan
I'm sorry to tell you that but you're wrong. The producer/beat-maker is responsible for clearing samples...not the artist who buys your track. | | | |
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lucas572
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| | 23 Aug 2009 01:17 PM |
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| ^ actually sometimes you'd both give an equal percentage of your profits towards the sample clearence, but this usually only works if your making an exclusive track, and the company that owns the sample asks for a percentage off all sales. | | De Soundclick
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Doctor J
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| | 24 Aug 2009 11:23 AM |
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Posted By AK beatz on 23 Aug 2009 01:00 PM
I'm sorry to tell you that but you're wrong.
The producer/beat-maker is responsible for clearing samples...not the artist who buys your track.
haha, yea i figured.... i deleted my disclaimer because it wouldn't really do much good anyways, and it might scare off potential customers haha i wonder if the more popular sample-based producers on soundclick actually clear their samples... im not really sure how that works but i would assume that its probably sort of expensive to get them cleared. | | | myspace.com/doctorj88 | |
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AK beatz
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| | 24 Aug 2009 11:42 AM |
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Posted By Doctor J on 24 Aug 2009 11:23 AM
Posted By AK beatz on 23 Aug 2009 01:00 PM
I'm sorry to tell you that but you're wrong.
The producer/beat-maker is responsible for clearing samples...not the artist who buys your track.
haha, yea i figured.... i deleted my disclaimer because it wouldn't really do much good anyways, and it might scare off potential customers haha
i wonder if the more popular sample-based producers on soundclick actually clear their samples...
im not really sure how that works but i would assume that its probably sort of expensive to get them cleared.
I guess it depends on the length of the sample and if they think, that your track has some sort of hit potential. And about the other soundclick beat-makers...probably noone in the top charts knows something about clearing samples. They just use the stuff thinking: "hey...it will never hit me anyways." And as long as your stuff isn't the hottest ish out there..nobody cares about your samples being cleared or not. But you never know...maybe you get funked one day for using a sample. At the end of the day, the original holder of the sample doesn't care if you're a big fish or a little beat-maker doing his ish in mom's basement. Cuz he would win the law case anyways. | | | |
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KwameTheGreat
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| | 24 Aug 2009 12:01 PM |
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| What's "clearing" a sample? The voices you put on it? | |  | |
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lucas572
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| | 24 Aug 2009 02:50 PM |
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| A sample is when you take anything from an audio file you didn't make. And because you didn't make it, by law you are required to get in touch with the copyright owner and ask them for permission to use the sample. Most of the time if its a record company that owns the sample they'll ask for money or a percentage of the sales. The sample can be anything from vocal cuts taken from old records, a drum loop, instrumentation taken from another song a couple of lines from a classic hip-hop track etc. etc. i hope that clears things up for you | | De Soundclick
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Doctor J
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lucas572
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| | 25 Aug 2009 03:40 PM |
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| oh snap lol. i never checked that thanks for the heads up dr j lmao. I don't get why the link isn't working though :S it seems to be trying to link within wb for osme reason :S i'll figure it out | | De Soundclick
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