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By nfx on Sunday, February 17, 2008 @ 10:00 PM :: 6076 Views :: 14 Comments :: :: Other, Audio Production | | With many creative endeavors, you have two primary motivations. Be artistic or be commercial. There is some room for overlap of the two but first lets define each: Artistic - An expression of one's self that must be shared.
Commercial - An expression of what people will want to buy. To the universe, neither one is better than the other. Period. ARTISTIC If you are an artistic type, you might hear a beat that sounds like what's hot for the current market and instantly think it's cookie cutter or generic. To you it's more important to forge a new path and follow it. The down side is that a lot of people probably don't feel your music as much as you would like and you might even be afraid to share it even though deep inside you have a hunger to let the world hear your music. This type of beatmaker gets a personal satisfaction from making the beat that fulfills something that money could not. Most times your artistic types can afford to be this way. If they were living hand to mouth, they would be smart to change and get their grind on and make some sellable, commercial music. The biggest hurdle for this type, is not be afraid to put themselves into the public eye. While this person may be extremely talented, like most "artists" they also tend to be insecure. Those that break the barrier and become commercially successful, often are known as the "godfather" of the new genre. Think of guys like Dre and Timbo whose beats sounded unique when they first made them but now are emulated by so many. COMMERCIAL A commercial style beatmaker, understands what people want to hear and will pay for. Their primary objective is to sell beats and make money. And before you think it's a greedy and therefore unsavory goal, it's not. Everyone needs to eat and pay bills. If you need that money to survive, this is a lofty goal that is much better than doing something criminal. I believe that most people struggling in life and looking for music as a way out, are commercially driven. It's really the smart thing in my opinion, as it gives you the best chance to improve your situation. Making a hot track requires a level a skill that not every man on the street has. It's as much a craft as woodworking or glassblowing. Their motivations may be to raise themselves out of the economic position they are in. They may also hope to someday be in a position where they can express some of their artistic side, but don't want to waste time on that now when there are opportunities to be had.
A lot of commercially driven producers do have a style that is somewhat unique but to a much less degree. Consider for example Scott Storch. Dude can make some banging hits. But I have heard him make tracks that are across many genres and honestly, sometimes you can' tell it's a Scott Storch beat on first listen, but Storch porbably cares less as long as the check clears and he's getting his points. Conclusion So what does it all mean? First, realize where you stand in the ARTISTIC<-to->COMMERCIAL spectrum. Second, it's not important what type you are or where your favor lays in the spectrum. Do your thing and fulfill that which you need most. You may encounter your counterpart from time to time and I can only urge you to recognize it, acknowledge it and keep moving toward your goal. Finally there is room to be part of both types! You might lean towards one or the other - no big deal. Just try to be aware of why you're in the game and use that knowledge to get what you need to make it happen.
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zaebeats @
Monday, February 18, 2008 1:48 AM
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This kind of changed my perspective on things, but the artist that i thought were wack are still wack. Good post tho.
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Taylor B @
Monday, February 18, 2008 11:25 AM
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Nice post NFX. Gave a little bit more of a perspective on things.
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EcoDTR @
Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:11 AM
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No disrespect, but I have to disagree, in a big way. Too many people today have the attitude that it's ok to make the same beat that the next guy's making, just because it will sell. It's led to a point where people who are creative and people who are doing their own thing, and truly have their own style don't get the props that they deserve. I mean beat makers, and artists in general are looked down upon today for being original, even by members of the hip-hop community, who, above all else should respect creativity. Hip-Hop was built on creativity. There was a time when most people thought of the entire genre as a joke, because it was so different from all of the other kinds of music out there, and people just didn't understand it.
Those were artists who led that revolution and brought hip-hop to the forefront of music. Now it's like the whole situation has flipped, If your beats are different from what's in the spotlight, and what's selling right now, it's wack. People think it's a joke because they don't understand it. Sound familiar? What really bothers me is when people who consider themselves part of hip-hop culture have this attitude. Not realizing that without someone who was artistic and creative, they would've never made their first track.
I'm not saying don't make music that's commercially viable, because yeah, everyone has to eat. But, always respect the man who's trying to put more food on the table.
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PAssassin1 @
Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:34 AM
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this whole idea about whats real, whats commercial.is such a petty arguement.When hip hop was born everybody was " A hip a hop, a hippy to the hippity......And every phase after that,whatever was hot, the majority followed. When Run DMC came out with rock and rap, alot of groups followed. When PE and BDP was doing black awareness themed rap, there were a lot of followers. When NWA hit it big with gangsta rap the mainstream followed.The point is that no matter what the mainstream trend is, its all still Hip Hop and we need to stop bickering back and forth like a bunch of bitches.I grew up during the Kurtis Blow and Grandmaster Flash days and I still love hip hop today. There are outlets for all forms of hip hop with satellite radio, spoken word clubs, the net... etc. Hip Hop is not dead, its been jaded by money and jealousy.I'm down for all forms of hip hop music til i die.
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nfx @
Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:59 AM
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There is an idealistic vision about hip hop and originality that is somewhat ironic. The originality takes hold and spawns copy cats which grows the market share of hip hop. Darwin's theory in baggy pants.
Something takes hold and it is played until it is played out. The second it takes root, it's no longer original. Most of hip hop is copying something previously successful, be it music, clothing, lifestyle....
How original is it to wear your cap slanted and baggy clothes? How original is snap music these days? Gold is out, Platinum is in. Errbody is copying errbody else. Hip hop is a big cliche.
It is correct that originality is needed to EVOLVE the culture, but it is not needed to succeed (ie. make a living at it) and thats the difference.
When the whole Kanye vs 50 things happened last year, I knew I would be feeling Kayne because he is more original. His album is what hip hop needs to evolve and grow, but I also knew that 50 wasn't going to starve because he's what is commercially viable right now.
Hip Hop needs to grow artistically AND commercially to be truly successful. Without the commercial aspect, you wouldn't have the power to demand the market share that hip hop enjoys today. Without that market share there would be so much less need for beat smiths.
I'm not trying to make anyone pick one side over the other, nor am I trying to convert anyone to the other side. Just be aware that there is another side and it is equally important to the big picture even if it's not important to you personally.
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Royal Beatz 07 @
Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:35 AM
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You make a great point. Well thought out, in my opinion. There are artists, trying to make statements, and express feelings, and there are people trying to make the next hit, and say what everone want s to hear, and sing along to. I started out listening to hip hop when it was born, by way of my father, and followed it through its many changes. Once I began making it, it was on an artistic side, being as though I am an artist(drawing, painting, poetry, ect) and made what I liked, or wanted to express(song and beat wise). Needless to say, I wasn't very popular, and wasnt making any money on beat sales. I gave up rapping, and began focusing on making beats, and I feel as though I have a mix of in between an artistic POV, and something commercial, ranging throughout my beats. I am making money now, and I strive to make what sells, because I don't have a job right now, so I need to pay my bills. I find people who like my beats, and I work with them, and treat them well, and they reward me with the satifation of a sale, and making something creative to what I have created. It's a win win situation, hearing what someone has done over my beat, while I got pay the electricity bill, or the rent with the product of my success. I know I have to get a job, because it gets close some months, but i love making a living on production. Look out for RoyalBeatz07. I'm doing it big in the 08. JW
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Basik0000 @
Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:11 PM
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Im aan artist but i want to get comercial ARTISTICALLY!! i want to fuse bot...I LOVE REAL HIP HOP ... tha TRUE STUFF!!! but remember what hip hop hop means hip = whats "in" hop = tha movement. to some hip hop is a genre but to others " artist" like me ... its A CULTURE!! but we can bring it bak.. n i dont hate comercial musik... i hate those in the musik business who have NO TALENT OR SKILL OR ANYTHING! while tothers work hard.. make unique things/ musik/ verses that r great n unique ... yet soulja boy gets da deal instead of the nex ans or nex j-dilla... its whatevvaa....
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nile_lata @
Saturday, March 01, 2008 3:34 PM
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To succeed in the Industry, you have to be creative enough to have a signature that seperates you from other producers, but at the same time: be knowledgeable about what's hip.
I'd rather be a tastemaker than a tastetaker, personally...
F8yl Blow Entertainment (FBE) www.myspace.com/fbebeats
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LO-KEY @
Sunday, May 25, 2008 12:51 AM
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MAN THAT POST WAS REAL INSIGHTFUL I HAD TO TAKE A DEEPER LOOK AT MY MOTIVES.MY GOALS SWAYED MORE TOWARDS THE ARTISTIC SIDE BUT MY OUTCOME WAS MORE OF THE COMMERCIAL SIDE.WHEN I FIRST STARTED TRYING TO SELL BEATS A ARTIST TOLD ME THEY WERE NICE BUT HE WANTED SOMETHING SIMPLE AND CATCHY AND THAT MY TRAX WERE TO MUSICAL NOW IM MORE TRYING TO MAKE RADIO PLAY BEATS BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID GOTTA EAT AND PAY BILLS (LOL)
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Icy Ice @
Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:50 AM
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Music is music, and the construction of it has it's purpose............we as producers' and musicians play what we hear and do what we feel.........i just like good music, and i'm more interested in the colors used by the producer as well as his story because i can see them both when listening to a track, It tells me what direction he is going in amd what's on his mind.
Artistic has it's place within the universe, and until the misery merchants are put in check.......the what's popular will take presidence over the creative types!!!!!!!
Just do what you do...the money will come.
PEACE!
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Alexzander @
Friday, September 05, 2008 2:16 PM
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Love the site and Im glad to be appart of the movement. Im a new sign-e under Sony as a producer/artist and I love seein' sites like these. You can check me and my group Street Runnaz Click out at myspace.com/streetrunnazclick. My production is the 2nd friend on the top list. All you producers on the rise such as I am hit me up!
Trillest Beetz aka Alexzander.
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marston @
Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:06 AM
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Dre was not unique for the time in the least.
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NickleDyme @
Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:07 PM
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I think I'm somewhat of both.Altho when I do something I have to like it b4 I even put it out.I don't care much bout money.If somebody likes it like I do,that's awesome!If not then whateva I don't let it get me down.I jus keep goin and learnin cuz it's more like an art.To me after working all day,dealing with ish and the norm,making a beat is like therepy.It's easy to get lost but if I could profit hell yea I'd do it.But in the long run I do it for myself.
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magicfdrama @
Wednesday, April 01, 2009 3:40 AM
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this is true..but if u think of it this way thanks for those commercial rappers hip hop is wack and everyday im hearing of some gay rapper on stage dancing and ish..and dont let this change your perspective if youre on the artistic side because believe me theres is still people that love music and are willing to pay for artistic work...music takes me places i never would imagine i love it til death and no money will ever change it..and by the way funk money
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