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By nfx on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 @ 10:50 AM :: 4318 Views :: 21 Comments :: :: Other, Audio Production | | Understanding the Industry (The Producers Vision) Brought to you by JHill (Diversified Beats) NeCrOnAmTM
[editors note: this article was originally posted in the Warbeats.com forums] In this world, people come and go in the music industry. Coming in with one hit wonders to being extravagant musicians. We all know who the big producers are but we all don't know the little guys, from the Warbeats members to the kid down the street making hits. When we producers look out for new talent, we find several producers that have talent but no drive. This article here is about the big producers vision, and how they continue to have that drive, not from the hefty check coming in from there super production.
Welcome, for those of you that do not know me, I'm JHill. I'll be bringing you a Warbeats exclusive article straight out of my mastermind. Alot of people ask me, how do you have all this knowledge on the (internal industry) *will explain later on in article
Coming from a very musical family, I have learned a lot about several Do's & Don'ts. I have sat down in major label conference rooms and listened and chatted among several head executives learning the industry from the Corporate / Producers vision. You have to understand that this is not easy, nor is it hard. You just have to have that drive. With the drive in life you can experience anything your mind can dream of and more than likely conquer it. Now lets discuss industry terms.
First and foremost, yes money in the bank is your main focus because thats how you eat and support your family or wants. But your main focus should be something else much more cherishable than money. "Publishing rights" This should be your main focus especially in your earlier years of production. A lot of producers are practically giving away beats that could be worth millions, sales going for 20-30 bucks. Come on guys, look at it like this, if the artist wont pay you for beats, he/she isn't serious about the music industry. Implant that into your brain. Don't let the local record companies fool you and tell you that you will get paid once the album is complete. That is an old man's tale that is a bunch of bullish unless you have the contracts built like that with publishing rights involved, basically the whole 9 yards. I could go on & on about how many times I have encountered this, and shut down complete contact with these idiots.
Second, one word.....Management! Ever since I got management I have been in so many peoples ears its sad. Now don't just get any kind of management, find you someone that will get you placements and such because thats where the big money comes from, placements on major label albums. Once you get placements, get your publishing rights, because its nothing better than getting a hit record on 50's new album or someone in that matter and getting a platinum plaque on your wall for show with a 500,000 dollar check.
Management is one of the most tossed around word in the industry. Whenever an artist says they don't know about something they have to speak with their manager, please don't think that is a false statement. That is REAL. The true manager doesn't give their artist any leadway unless approved by the management. My manager comes to me and says, look we got two A&R's looking for beats for Jeezy and Britney Spears. Go get their music, feel it and create. Within 1 week we usually come together and make about 30 beats per artist. We blast snippets of our beats untagged to trusted A&R's in our group and if wanted for further review, we will travel to deliver the protools session. If an artist or agency says you pay for the flight, usually means they aren't favoring your beat and want to hear other beats you have. 95% of the time they pay for the travel and room, because they feel you will cut them a deal or something who knows. lol :::... Well enough of that...
Alot of people have asked on the request thread, how long does it take to become famous or to get a hit song on the radio. Remember this in your adventure over time; being a known producer with a hit radio track can happen overnight. I have seen it multiple times. Take this artist for example: Where did Jibbs come from. He came out of no where with 2 huge tracks, became a millionaire and wam, he's set. Look at Solja Boy, lol, he became a millionaire and wam, he's set. All those were over night things. Literally. Should I go on. So focus on getting GOOD management and start getting your beats blasted out there to the trusted industry.
Signing off for now JHill (Diversified Beats) NeCrOnAmTM This article may not be reprinted or reproduced without express written consent by the author or Warbeats.com.
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Static2kx @
Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:33 PM
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That I Must say is prolly one of the best articles i've thus far. Thanks For the Info!
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Waldoh @
Wednesday, October 10, 2007 10:44 PM
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Sick article. Thanks for sharing. So you part of a production team JHill? Did you get signed on to the team or started the team?
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ROBOTRAXX21 @
Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:38 PM
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great article , awesome information..im on my way..thx
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lowkey23 @
Friday, October 12, 2007 12:27 AM
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well i guess my comment wasnt savy enough for this posting area so it was deleted....---oh well--- let me break down my thoughts on why i thought this post was so repulsive to me. First of all i would love to see a post from this so called high times producer explaining how hard it is to become great in the "industry" , more in depth. My feelings on this post is that "J Hill" makes it seem way to easy to become more than a beat maker, when i myself know that it is far more than easy to accomplish. Throughout years of trial and error is the only way you will make yourself an accomplished artist and or producer and i would love to see an article from a different producer and or beat maker explaining all the tribulations they went through to make it where they are. This "J-Hill" person gives to many small time people to much hope to make it big time, in my opinion. And finally my thoughts on this article and this person remain the same "Pure False Hope" is all thats given in these articles by "J-Hill"....nfx i hope i havent offended you by my comments but the way i see it is that if it was so easy as "J-Hill" makes it seem we would all already be in the music "industry".......so with that said i envoke my right to give this article by "J-Hill" the lowest rating possible........and in respect for NFX the highest approved rating to him for attempting to lend out a helping hand and act as if he cares.
Ya Boi LowKey @ LowKey's Lab
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dellken04 @
Friday, October 12, 2007 9:44 PM
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I don't think it is giving us false hope. For somepeople it is that easy. Get a myspace page, make a song, people like it, right person hears it done. This is also true for producers. Kane of Kane Beatz is a perfect example, he had a soundclick account, the right person heard it, he got a major placement. I think drive mixed with being at the right place at the right time is all that is needed. New producers are popping up everywhere. You never know when it is going to be your time.
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lowkey23 @
Saturday, October 13, 2007 1:55 AM
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" I don't think it is giving us false hope. For somepeople it is that easy. Get a myspace page, make a song, people like it, right person hears it done. This is also true for producers. Kane of Kane Beatz is a perfect example, he had a soundclick account, the right person heard it, he got a major placement. I think drive mixed with being at the right place at the right time is all that is needed. New producers are popping up everywhere. You never know when it is going to be your time."
what your talking about is HOPE i wanna hear about the people that put hard work in day in and day out ...... pushin there music , making a living out of there music and how it was "easy to get there"....what youre talking about is ----i made a beat now imma post it on my site and HOPE the right person hears it--------im talking about people that make there music work for them and how they do it..........i still got mad respect for NFX though---keep up the good work man
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RebelBeats @
Saturday, October 13, 2007 1:49 PM
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This is definitely good for those that didn't know. There's no 1 way to do it but there are a lot of things that you will need to do eventually.
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8Spade @
Saturday, October 13, 2007 2:35 PM
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Word up Lowkey, as much as i'd love to believe all what J-Hill is telling us, i just can't because first of all, on the previous article, he's telling us how we should put mad money on building up our website when all he got is a myspace page. Then he makes it seem like all the steps to get to a situation where you're making a living out of your beats are too easy, like he's too inexperienced himself to be able to talk about that. Look, I am not judging anybody: NFX is willing to give us an opprtunity to learn more about the 'industry' and J-Hill has both the name (diversified beats), and the skills to let that name be heard, and I believe him when he says he works with the top artists in his area. But all these articles he drops about "how to get famous in the music biz" sound like he's just promoting himslef here, without really giving us a valuable advice.
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lowkey23 @
Saturday, October 13, 2007 5:15 PM
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yo spade im with you 100 on that--i would love to hear some more valuable advice we can actually take to heart...and im 100 with you on you sayin "J-Hill" basically give his own name props and building himself up for more sales and fame----either way it goes i personaly spoke with J-Hill a while back ago and my personal opinion of this person was, this person is one self obsorbed boooshie, dime in a dolla, nose stuck up in the air, wanna know it all.....but those are just my personal opinions i formed after having spoken with this person...i do not intend to push my opinions on anyone else. . . . more props to the person that actually wants to take advice from J-Hill...........its all up to you..............i personally would like to take advice from someone willing to teach instead of preach.....and NFX is a great example of just that, he has taken valuable time out of his personal life to give each and ever one of us a little knowledge and a helping hand------BIG PROPS YO YOU NFX for what you have done, are doing, and gonna do......i got mad respect for you man.........................so get it how you live and imma stay 100
Ya Boi LowKey @ LowKey's Lab
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dmarcusmilez @
Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:06 PM
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i got a few more years of work ive only been making beats for 2 years and people tell me i sound pro. an i got tyme cuz im only 16 bright now im juss makin beats for fun but wen i get serious serious u CANT TELL ME NOTHING LOL
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nickdj61789 @
Thursday, October 18, 2007 6:39 AM
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great article but WTF!! 30 beats per artsit DAMN!
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8Spade @
Friday, October 19, 2007 7:27 PM
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Yea its like you're making 30 beats but if they don't get hooked after listening to 5 of em they won't listen to the whole CD so you definitely need qualities tracks first.
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KILLEEN1 @
Friday, October 19, 2007 7:46 PM
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So J, who have you worked with and what placements do you have?
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KILLEEN1 @
Friday, October 19, 2007 8:07 PM
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and oh yeah...... Who was the last person to recieve a check for $500,000 for a beat or a publishing check for that amount? The only producer ever to receive a check(buy-outs) for beats was "Rodney Jerkins" for the most recent Michael Jackson album, where he charged Michael $1,000,000 a track but in his case MIchael wanted all the publishing therefor Mr. Jerkins did not ever receive a publishing check.... In the publishing world, ASCAP, BMI SOCAN and any other Major publishing agencies. No one has ever recieved a publishing check for that amount at one time. This is all public knowledge any and everyone can find this out at any given time. Now here's the controversy which leads everyone to believe that tracks are currently being sold for these ridiculous prices....."Artists and Producers lie". Plain and simple. In public records these sales are controlled and tracked. I'm not hating on you J Hill, but back up your knowledge with some facts. Why dont you talk about the Points and Publishing system and how it works? Describe these in detail so everyone can know what you did to avoid the publishing and points scams if you've ever encountered these problems. I've seen and been in many situations that Producers dont see anything up front, not saying it happens all the time but it does happen more than pay outs.. In these cases, us as Producers get more on the back end. C'mon dude, this is the industry in a nutshell...
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KILLEEN1 @
Saturday, October 20, 2007 10:14 AM
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and on another note... Soulja Boy is not a millionare, he is not set. He got a "Single Deal" with an album option. Everything he has on was from his advance so he has to pay it all back when his albuim flops... And it will flop... The only way Soulja boy is getting paid is from BDS spins. And he wont see that publishing check till Mar 08. Get your facts right.
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nuhuhhjhill @
Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:42 AM
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Thanks so much for all your feedback. As far as kileen's comment, the 500k number was an example not a exact amount, so if that caused anyone confusion, please forgive me. But yes in a nutshell me and kileen's comment is this stuff in a nut shell....by the way kileen answer ur damn phone lmao!
im out.
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KILLEEN1 @
Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:59 PM
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you know i gotta give you a hard time J....... Im just saying explain in detail more for these cats so they understand..... Gimme your number, I just got an iphone because i lost my old phone.... I need to holla at you asap about some biz... Get at me.
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zerocool @
Friday, December 07, 2007 5:36 PM
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Keep um comin this great insite Jhill
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uniquejay @
Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:36 PM
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Thanks for sharing the Knowledge!!
-Unique Jay SKi Mask Mob / SKi Mask Productions
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shabbarnks @
Monday, January 07, 2008 7:22 PM
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Thanks for the article JHill it helps alot
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Zikmu2008 @
Tuesday, August 05, 2008 1:15 PM
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This Article is inspiring. Thank You. Its gives me a positive outlook on making music.
-z!kmu
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